Sorry for the delay in podcasting, but we realized during the recording of the coverage for Spawn #21 that a specific course had to be taken through at least episode 26, but really more like 30+, to parallel events in that series. We'd already recorded episodes on Tribe and Trencher that had to be shelved, Frank had to rechart a course and do more reading, Fixit had to not actually timely read the things that we needed to read... worse than usual, basically. We'll be back soonish, though.
Talking of delays, Frank decided to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Image Comics while also meeting up with the greater following of The Fire & Water Podcast Network at his first (and to date only) attending of HeroesCon in Charlotte, NC. Because nothing is ever simple with this guy, it wasn't enough to get a commission of a character representing the seven Image founders from that many artists in the span of a three day weekend. No, he had to reflect all nine past and present Image partners, and each part of the jam had to be done by an independent comics creator who pioneered creator-owned publishing ahead of Image. Amazingly, Frank actually managed to get six of the founders' characters sorta-kinda done, but not quite. The seventh turned into a whole multitude of characters spanning about a year-and-a-half, and is currently in the process of getting the piece colored. So, 30th anniversary then?
To ring in a Supreme 2020 and to remind everyone Spawnometer is still a going concern, we now feature Rob Liefeld's Dark Age Superman, the second character commissioned as part of a jam that we'll unveil very slowly over time. Frank wanted to have indy pioneers do the piece, and few have more street cred than Los Bros Hernandez of Love and Rockets. One part, Gilbert “Beto” Hernandez, is famed for realistic, grounded work on Latinx characters across 35 years, as well as his disinterest in corporate super-heroes. Frank of course requested from him a derivative super-Aryan from one of the most reviled moneyed creators of the Chromium Age; and one that is currently owned by venture capitalist Andrew Rev.
Frank was not at all confident that Beto would agree to this request, but Hernandez's Kirby-inspired style and small press bona fides meant he had to try. To his surprise, Hernandez agreed, and to a jam no less! Admittedly, the artist was perceived by Frank to be begrudging of the choice, but he took on the deconstructionist/reconstructionist copyright hand grenade to Frank's gratitude!
In case you're wondering, Frank was building a tribute to Image Comics' quarter-century, and decided that Supreme was the best choice to represent Rob Liefeld. An argument could be made for Badrock or Shaft, but there really isn't one character that fully embodies Youngblood. Glory would have offered more gender balance, but her total number of solo comics is what, 30? And whether you're talking Alan Moore, Sophie Campbell or Mike Deodato Jr., few ultimately bought that book with Liefeld as primary motivation. Frank feels Supreme is Liefeld's greatest creator-owned character, based on his publication longevity, continuity breadth, and industry impact. While Liefeld himself only plotted the character's stories in the early years, Supreme is something of a Rob urtext-- representing his Image career in a way, say, Chapel could never quite manage. Supreme is the biggest and most valuable post-Marvel Liefeld creation, artistically and financially, which gave him the nod. Also, Frank likes Supreme best, and it was his wallet being opened...
Wednesday, January 1, 2020
2017 Heroes Convention Supreme Jam Sketch Detail by Gilbert “Beto” Hernandez
Sorry for the delay in podcasting, but we realized during the recording of the coverage for Spawn #21 that a specific course had to be taken through at least episode 26, but really more like 30+, to parallel events in that series. We'd already recorded episodes on Tribe and Trencher that had to be shelved, Frank had to rechart a course and do more reading, Fixit had to not actually timely read the things that we needed to read... worse than usual, basically. We'll be back soonish, though.
Talking of delays, Frank decided to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Image Comics while also meeting up with the greater following of The Fire & Water Podcast Network at his first (and to date only) attending of HeroesCon in Charlotte, NC. Because nothing is ever simple with this guy, it wasn't enough to get a commission of a character representing the seven Image founders from that many artists in the span of a three day weekend. No, he had to reflect all nine past and present Image partners, and each part of the jam had to be done by an independent comics creator who pioneered creator-owned publishing ahead of Image. Amazingly, Frank actually managed to get six of the founders' characters sorta-kinda done, but not quite. The seventh turned into a whole multitude of characters spanning about a year-and-a-half, and is currently in the process of getting the piece colored. So, 30th anniversary then?
To ring in a Supreme 2020 and to remind everyone Spawnometer is still a going concern, we now feature Rob Liefeld's Dark Age Superman, the second character commissioned as part of a jam that we'll unveil very slowly over time. Frank wanted to have indy pioneers do the piece, and few have more street cred than Los Bros Hernandez of Love and Rockets. One part, Gilbert “Beto” Hernandez, is famed for realistic, grounded work on Latinx characters across 35 years, as well as his disinterest in corporate super-heroes. Frank of course requested from him a derivative super-Aryan from one of the most reviled moneyed creators of the Chromium Age; and one that is currently owned by venture capitalist Andrew Rev.
Frank was not at all confident that Beto would agree to this request, but Hernandez's Kirby-inspired style and small press bona fides meant he had to try. To his surprise, Hernandez agreed, and to a jam no less! Admittedly, the artist was perceived by Frank to be begrudging of the choice, but he took on the deconstructionist/reconstructionist copyright hand grenade to Frank's gratitude!
In case you're wondering, Frank was building a tribute to Image Comics' quarter-century, and decided that Supreme was the best choice to represent Rob Liefeld. An argument could be made for Badrock or Shaft, but there really isn't one character that fully embodies Youngblood. Glory would have offered more gender balance, but her total number of solo comics is what, 30? And whether you're talking Alan Moore, Sophie Campbell or Mike Deodato Jr., few ultimately bought that book with Liefeld as primary motivation. Frank feels Supreme is Liefeld's greatest creator-owned character, based on his publication longevity, continuity breadth, and industry impact. While Liefeld himself only plotted the character's stories in the early years, Supreme is something of a Rob urtext-- representing his Image career in a way, say, Chapel could never quite manage. Supreme is the biggest and most valuable post-Marvel Liefeld creation, artistically and financially, which gave him the nod. Also, Frank likes Supreme best, and it was his wallet being opened...
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